Provexum  seventy-five to eight or nine hundred and all of those studies were done about 17 years ago and looked at healthy twenty and thirty year old men and I'm looking around I don't see any 20 or 30 year old men here so for me to measure your testosterone at the age of 50 or 60 or 70 or 80 or 90 and compare that to a healthy 20 year old doesn't make a lot of sense in my book so Provexum     I would tell you that we don't really know what a normal testosterone is at this point in time we have some ideas but I can tell you that if your testosterone is 200 and that's deemed normal by the insurance companies most men will see significant improvement in a large segment of their lives with testosterone replacement so understanding and knowing that this has been poorly studied we're doing some things about that we're we're gathering data as we speak to look at men and in in their 50s and 60s and 70s and 80s and trying to figure out what the norms.

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